http://carlotraversi.com/2013/06/05/return-to-wild-basin-with-a-discourse-on-grades/ Pro Climber Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:22:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 http://carlotraversi.com/2013/06/05/return-to-wild-basin-with-a-discourse-on-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-27367 eth Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:22:11 +0000 http://carlotraversi.com/?p=1650#comment-27367 I guess the climbers that put up these problems and casually grade them just have other things on their mind like putting up new boulders rather than dwelling too long on the opinions of others.

]]> http://carlotraversi.com/2013/06/05/return-to-wild-basin-with-a-discourse-on-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-25107 Kris L Sun, 09 Jun 2013 22:20:39 +0000 http://carlotraversi.com/?p=1650#comment-25107 Carlo, I completely agree with you. It is often the case that a line was given a grade by a single person and that impression has propagated through time perhaps swaying the minds of succeeding ascensionists. That grade was hopefully an honest and well-thought-out assessment of the difficulty of the line by the giver. To that point, it seems proper to continue to assess the problem in one’s own perspective – to offer your honest opinion to the consensus. Obviously this is the exact concept behind consensus grading, but it doesn’t make any sense if everyone feels pressured to give it the same grade. There may be outliers and their presence is a reflection of the behavior of many others processes in nature. I believe grading is more of an art than a science and it is certainly honed with experience. The subjective nature of the process maintains an element of uncertainty and allows climbing to stay fresh and evolve unlike so many other sports. Unlike you, I am not in the professional arena in which there is likely more potential to arise from so-called ‘gain.’ I applaud you for taking this stance and voicing your thoughts. Being honest with myself helps me ‘sleep better at night’ as well.

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